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- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 23 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1501
-
- Today's Topics:
- Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 21 December
- Designations for microwave bands?
- France: reciprocal operating info?
- Help Needed !!! on Power supply...
- Mailing lists?
- Morse Code blues (2 msgs)
- Need help with the numbers in Morse
- SB-100 sold
- Where are all the young enthusiasts?
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 21:16:42 MST
- From: usc.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cs.ubc.ca!alberta!nebulus!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 21 December
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
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-
- DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY
-
- 21 DECEMBER, 1993
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
-
-
- SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 21 DECEMBER, 1993
- ------------------------------------------------------------
-
- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 355, 12/21/93
- 10.7 FLUX=092.9 90-AVG=098 SSN=045 BKI=3233 3323 BAI=013
- BGND-XRAY=B1.3 FLU1=2.7E+06 FLU10=1.2E+04 PKI=3233 3323 PAI=012
- BOU-DEV=031,011,029,025,024,028,017,027 DEV-AVG=024 NT SWF=00:000
- XRAY-MAX= C1.2 @ 0058UT XRAY-MIN= B1.1 @ 1558UT XRAY-AVG= B2.9
- NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 1330UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 2355UT NEUTN-AVG= -0.3%
- PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 0705UT PCA-MIN= -0.4DB @ 1025UT PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
- BOUTF-MAX=55358NT @ 2354UT BOUTF-MIN=55333NT @ 1739UT BOUTF-AVG=55348NT
- GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+068,+000,+000
- GOES6-MAX=P:+135NT@ 1654UT GOES6-MIN=N:-071NT@ 0717UT G6-AVG=+089,+021,-029
- FLUXFCST=STD:095,097,098;SESC:095,097,098 BAI/PAI-FCST=007,007,005/010,010,005
- KFCST=1112 3111 1112 3111 27DAY-AP=005,006 27DAY-KP=2211 2121 2110 2223
- WARNINGS=*SWF
- ALERTS=
- !!END-DATA!!
-
- NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 20 DEC 93 was 41.0.
- The Full Kp Indices for 20 DEC 93 are: 3o 2o 1+ 3- 2o 2o 3- 3-
-
-
- SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
- --------------------
-
- Solar activity was low. Only an occasional C-class flare
- has been noted during the period. Region 7640 (N10E57) shows
- the most potential for flares.
-
- Solar activity forecast: solar activity should continue to
- be at a low level. Region 7640 is still capable of producing an
- isolated M-class flare.
-
- STD: A full-disk x-ray image from the Yohkoh satellite has been
- appended to this report, showing the increased emissions
- associated with Region 7640.
-
- The geomagnetic field has been at quiet to unsettled
- levels for the past 24 hours. Active to minor storm levels
- were observed at high latitudes.
-
- Geophysical activity forecast: the geomagnetic field is
- expected to be mostly quiet throughout the forecast period.
-
- Event probabilities 22 dec-24 dec
-
- Class M 20/20/20
- Class X 01/01/01
- Proton 01/01/01
- PCAF Green
-
- Geomagnetic activity probabilities 22 dec-24 dec
-
- A. Middle Latitudes
- Active 15/15/10
- Minor Storm 05/05/05
- Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01
-
- B. High Latitudes
- Active 25/25/15
- Minor Storm 10/10/05
- Major-Severe Storm 01/01/01
-
- HF propagation conditions have not changed over the last
- 24 hours. Low and middle latitudes continue to observe
- near-normal propagation, while high and polar latitudes
- continue to observe near-normal propagation except during the
- local night and morning sectors where occasional minor signal
- degradation is producing slightly below-normal conditions. No
- changes are expected over the next several days. High and
- polar latitude paths should see gradual improvements over the
- next 72 hours as levels of geomagnetic activity drop to
- generally quiet levels.
-
-
- COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
- ========================================================
-
- REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 21/2400Z DECEMBER
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
- 7635 N01W14 273 0060 CSO 04 004 BETA
- 7640 N09E58 201 0250 FSO 16 010 BETA
- 7641 N04E60 199 0100 HSX 02 001 ALPHA
- 7632 N05W85 344 PLAGE
- 7637 N09W72 331 PLAGE
- REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 22 DECEMBER TO 24 DECEMBER
- NMBR LAT LO
- 7623 S13 158
-
-
- LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 21 DECEMBER, 1993
- -------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP
- NONE
-
-
- POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 21 DECEMBER, 1993
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED
-
-
- INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 21/2400Z
- ---------------------------------------------------
- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
- EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
- NO DATA AVAILABLE FOR ANALYSIS
-
-
- SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
- 20 Dec: 0152 0200 0209 C1.3
- 0235 0245 0259 B5.2
- 0613 0625 0638 B3.6
- 0713 0731 0751 C1.5
- 0838 0846 0854 C1.3
- 1425 1433 1437 B6.0 SF 7640 N08E80
- 1531 1536 1541 B6.8 SF 7640 N07E76
- 1819 1820 1829 SF 7640 N07E75
- 1847 1903 1910 B6.4 SF 7640 N08E74
- 1916 1917 1927 SF 7640 N07E72
- 2222 2225 2236 B4.7
-
-
- REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
- Region 7640: 0 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 005 (45.5)
- Uncorrellated: 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 006 (54.5)
-
- Total Events: 011 optical and x-ray.
-
-
- EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
- 20 Dec: 0152 0200 0209 C1.3 III
- 1847 1903 1910 B6.4 SF 7640 N08E74 III,V
-
- NOTES:
- All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
- and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
- All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
- associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
- x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
- optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
-
- Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
-
- II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
- III = Type III Sweep
- IV = Type IV Sweep
- V = Type V Sweep
- Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
- Loop = Loop Prominence System,
- Spray = Limb Spray,
- Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
- EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
-
-
- SPECIAL INSERT: CURRENT X-RAY EMISSIONS FROM THE JAPANESE YOHKOH SPACECRAFT
- ===========================================================================
-
- 21 December 1993, 06:20 UTC
-
- North
- . ....,,,,,,,,:,,,:,,,,... .........
- .... .....,,,,,::::::::::,,:::,,,... ...,,,,,:,,,,,,...
- ......,......,,,,,::::::::,,,,,,,.,.,,,,,,... ...,..,,::::::,,,.....
- .......,.....,,,,:::::::,:,,,,,,,,....,,...... .......,,:::::,,,....
- ..,,,,,:,,,,,::,,,,,:::::::,,,,,,,,...,.......... .........,,::;::,,,,...
- .,,,,:::::;;;::::,::::::::::::,,.,,.,,,.,,........ . ....,,,,,::;;::,,,,.....
- .,,,::;;-----;;;;:::::::::::::,:,,,,.....,,,,,..............,,,::;;;;::,,,,....
- ,,::;--+|||+------;:::::::::::::,:,........,,,,,,...........,,,::-+--;;:::,,,,.
- ,;-+||!121|+---++++-;;:::::::::,:;::,,..,,,,.,,,,..........,,,,,,;-----;;;:::,,
- ;+|!||!3*2!||++-++++--;;;;::::,:::-:,,,,,,,,,,,............,,,,,,:;:;;-++--;;::
- ;-||!12*#*1!||+-++-++------;;,,:;::::,:::::::,,,,,,.........:,,,,:;;::;|||+--;:
- :;+!223#@@3!||+++----------;:,.,;;:;::::;--;;::,,,,,,........,,,,,,,,:;+|!!+-;;
- ;-|!124##4!!|+------;;;;;;:::::;-+--;;;;+!11|-:,,.............,,,,,::-1+!!!|+-;
- ;-+!124*2!|+----;;;;;::::::::;;;;;;;;;-|132!+-:,,.. ......,,,,,,,:-++!!!|+-;
- ;-+|!221|++-;;;;;;::::::,,,:::::,,,:::;|!|--||+-;,.. . .......,,,,,,,;-|++--;;
- ;--++|||+-;;;;::::::::::,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:::::;--;:,...... ..,....,,,:,,,::;-;;::,
- ;;--+|!+;;;::::::::::,,,,,....,,,,,,,,,.,:,,,,...... .,,,,,,:,;:,,:::;-;:,,,
- :;--+|!1-;;:::::::::,,,,. .. ..,,,,......,,........, .,,:,,,,,...,,:::;;;:,,.
- ;;---+13|;:::::::,,:,,,......,,,,........................,,........,::,:;;:,,..
- ;;;;-+|!|;:::::,,,,,,,..,.,,.,,............. .. ..................,;,,;;::,,..
- :;;;---++-::,,,,,,,,...,,,,,......,,........ .... .....,.,,:;::,....
- ::;;;---++-:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.............. ..............,.,.,,;;::,....
- :::;;;;-----:,.,,,,,,,...,.........,... ................,,::::,..
- ,:::::;;;;;;;;,,,,,,,,............. . .. ............,,:::,,...
- ,,,,,:,:::::;;;;:,,,,,,............ .. . . . .....,... ..,.,,,,....
- ..,,,,,,,:::::;;;;::,,,.........,.... . ,. ... .....,,,..
- ....,,.,,,,::::;;;;-;::,.. .,,,,..
- ........,,,,::::;;;;;;;:,.. .. ..
- .........,,,,,:::::::;;::::,,.. .
- . .......,,,,,,,,:,,,,,,.....,,,,,,,,....
- ............... ........
-
- South
-
- KEY: East and west limbs are to the left and right respectively. Emission
- strength, from minimum to maximum are coded in the following way:
-
- [space] . , : ; - + | ! 1 2 3 4 * # @
-
- Units used are arbitrary, for illustrative purposes. Get "showasc.zip"
- from "pub/solar/Software" at the anonymous FTP site: ftp.uleth.ca
- (IP # 142.66.3.29) to view these images on VGA screens.
-
-
- ** End of Daily Report **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 19:04:29 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!mksol!dodson@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Designations for microwave bands?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- One of the reasons for confusion is that different services define their own
- ranges based on their use. Since I primarily work with radar systems, I use
- the radar band definitions (such as X-band = 8.0 to 12.4 GHz) which is also
- how my equipment is specified (TWT's, SSA's and couplers, etc.). However,
- communications engineers define their bands based on the allocated service
- which is where the ~10 GHz range for X-band comes from. There was also a
- proposal to go to a new lettering system which went in order (A, B, C etc.)
- but no one around here seems to use that standard(?). Does anybody out there
- use it?
-
- For what it's worth, these are the designations that I use:
-
- L-band 1 - 2 GHz [Though really, anything below 2 GHz is ~DC :-) ]
- S-band 2 - 4 GHz
- C-band 4 - 8 GHz
- X-band 8 - 12.4 GHz
- Ku-band 12.4 - 18.0 GHz
- K-band 18 - 26.5 GHz
-
- Pretty much anything above that we lump together as millimeter wave.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 17:16:28 GMT
- From: microsoft!wingnut!laurahal@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: France: reciprocal operating info?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm preparing for a trip next year (May, probably) to the
- U.K. with a side trip to France, and am setting things in
- motion for my reciprocal licence(s). The RSGB are sending
- me the U.K. paperwork, but would anybody be able to offer
- a pointer for the French paperwork? I have the address in
- Montreux, but if I can do better I would certainly like to...
-
- Thanks in advance!
-
- 73 from Burnaby,
- laura VE7LDH
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 14:24:27 GMT
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.cs.brandeis.edu!slanka@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help Needed !!! on Power supply...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi Folks!
-
- I want to know if I could use the Yaesu FP800 power supply (rated
- at 20A) with the Kenwood TS450S (rated to require 20.5A).
-
- Many Thanks-
- please email:
-
- ishi@media.mit.edu or slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 20 Dec 93 20:33:00 GMT
- From: twwells!pics!james.mollica@rutgers.rutgers.edu
- Subject: Mailing lists?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- DB.During the past month or so I've heard references to a couple of mailing
- .lists, one for contests and one for DX'ers. If anybody has info on these
- .lists, and how I can get on them, please email me.
-
- Send a msg to cq-contest-request@tgv.com with "subscribe" in the
- msg field. This will get you on the contest reflector. There is
- another for the dx list but I do not have the info. You can ask on
- the contest reflector. Since these lists are on the internet you will
- need an internet email gateway. 73 es gl, Jim N2NRD.
-
- Jim
-
- * 1st 1.11 #1439 * N2NRD @ AMSAT.ORG
-
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 16:37:27 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!news.bbn.com!petra!zds-oem!news@network.ucsd.edu (Earl Morse)
- Subject: Morse Code blues
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2f80r0$2de@ornews.intel.com> zardoz@ornews.intel.com (Jim Garver) writes:
- >In article <2f7ujfINNdsr@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu> cbr600@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeremy Utley) writes:
- >
- >>...Just had my first bad experience as a Tech plus licensee...
- >>...Dropped down>to 15 meters, threw out the following:
- >
- >>CQ CQ CQ DE N0YAX N0YAX N0YAX QRS K
- >
- >>I put the QRS in there so hams would know I had trouble copying code and would
- >>send slower. I did that about 3 times, and this guy comes back at about 18 wpm
-
- Proper CW etiquette dictates that you send at your copying speed and that
- you reply at the same speed that the CQer is sending at. If someone comes
- back to you at 18 WPM ask the to PSE RPT QRS. Just keep sending that until
- they get it that you want 5 WPM sent to you. Don't let QRQ ops get you down.
- Remember nobody started copying code at 20 WPM proficiency. Keep banging
- away and remember that the good ops will come back at your speed.
-
- Of course, I'm assuming that you aren't CQing at 18 WPM. If you are sending
- at above your proficiency then you are going to have problems copying.
-
- 73 GL
-
- Earl Morse
- KZ8E
- e.morse@zds.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 19:34:27 GMT
- From: pa.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!ryn.mro4.dec.com!est.enet.dec.com!randolph@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Morse Code blues
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2f7ujfINNdsr@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu>, cbr600@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Jeremy Utley) writes...
- >I put the QRS in there so hams would know I had trouble copying code, and would
- >send slower. I did that about 3 times, and this guy comes back at about 18 wpm
- >all I could catch was N0YAX DE and from there lost it totally.
-
- Yah, I don't get on HF much, due to lack of equipment, but I got in one CW QSO a
- couple of weeks ago at a friend's station. During the ten minute QSO, we had
- some guy tune up on our freq, two other guys jump in at about 30 WPM right
- on top of us, and ultimately had to sign with each other over two or three guys
- holding the key down on our freq. Nice, real nice.
- -Tom R. N1OOQ randolph@est.enet.dec.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Dec 1993 19:56:44 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!mipg.upenn.edu!yee@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need help with the numbers in Morse
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have been practicing my code and I think I am getting pretty close to the
- necessary 13wpm. The problem is that I have a tough time with the numbers.
- I KNOW I am trying to count the dits and dahs for numbers. For letters and
- punctuation, I am in decent shape.
-
- Any suggestions on how to get past this nastiness?
-
- --
- Medical Image Processing Group | Conway Yee, N2JWQ
- 411 Blockley Hall | EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu
- 418 Service Drive | VOICE : 1 (215) 662-6780
- Philadelphia, PA 19104-6021 (USA) | FAX : 1 (215) 898-9145
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 15:21:22 GMT
- From: uchinews!att-out!cbnewsd!kmyeh@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: SB-100 sold
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The Ham Radio is sold. Thanks for the overwhelming response!
- Happy Holidays to everyone.
- Ken Yeh
- kmy@ihlpm.att.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 16:57:39 GMT
- From: cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!news.bbn.com!petra!zds-oem!news@uunet.uu.net (Earl Morse)
- Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1993Dec22.060722.7669@kd4nc.uucp> n4tii@kd4nc.uucp (John Reed) writes:
-
- >I'm almost 23 on this end...I got my license when I was 17 and a Junior in
- >High school....(Got Novice and Technician within a month of each other).
- >A year later, I got my General and have been in a holding pattern since...
- >
- >The problem I am having with my club is my age... I am the first young ham
- >they've had in a while that is highly active....always on the radio...operating
- >at field day, raising hell at club meetings, etc....
- >
- >It seems that everytime there's a problem in the club, I'm the one to blame.
- >Shortly after I got my license, we had a problem with a TouchTone bandit on
- >the club repeater....all the OF's thought it was me..... even since, I have
- >been more active then 80% of the club members, yet I'm still passed up for
- >club nominations each year, passed up for control operator appointments,
- >special duties in the club, etc...
- >
- >MMy club as yet to give me the respect that I deserve as a member and as a
- >person..everytime I open my mouth at a meeting, I'm met with a "That's nice
- >son" attitude and a motion to shut up... I'm cut off in mid sentence, etc...
- >
- >I don't if other clubs are like that with their new young hams, but mine is
- >bad...
- >
- >Some of these old phartes need to learn that us new hams have plenty to offer
- >and in no way are we threatening to the establishment... I've done plenty for
- >my club, without return.... if they only knew what I was capable of... in
- >the CAP, I am a group communications officer, a node operator, a repeater
- >control operator and site custodian for the machine, I node op a ham node,
- >(GVL07:n4tii-7 in Gainesville, GA - 145.07), I am in AF MARS, (afa2fh), and
- >have been a region 2 net control station, a beacon station, a TEXN agent.
- >I'm the AEC for the Hall County GA ares...etc etc etc.... but I'm just not
- >qualified to serve as an officer in my club because "I'm too little!"
- >
- >
- Don't sweat it John. You could have it worse. My club has old farts that
- want everything done for them. I was first nominated for president at the
- age of 18. I declined because I was going to college. I have been the
- Field Day Chairman for umpteen years, and an officer of some sort since I
- graduated from college and returned to the area.
-
- To put it mildly the elections are a railroad that nobody votes in. As soon
- as someone gets nominated he is voted in by acclamation as everyone breathes
- sigh of relief that they don't have to be in a position of reponsibility.
-
- There are 100 members in this club. You would think people were fighting
- to lead, but not so. So I would say go find another club, or start your own
- repeater. A repeater will definitely take up your time. I work with
- 2 other guys that homebrewed a 2m/440 set of repeaters and it eats up all
- my time.
-
- Good luck to ya. If you keep looking someplace you'll find a group that
- will welcome your talents and enthusiasm. Woe to the old "phartes" that
- are losing your expertises.
-
- BTW, I was still the youngest in the club when I was 28. (almost 31 now).
-
- 73
- Earl Morse
- KZ8E
- e.morse@zds.com
-
-
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-
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